Over in the ExtraBold thread...
Yes, I usually consult the rules when I talk about them. I've always taken "any effect" here to mean, you know, any effect, and the mention of overdrive and the like to be examples of effects that are easily abused in this way. Perhaps I'm misinterpreting the intent. If you think so, that's fine. But I read this as a statement of the guiding principle behind multiple rules about what kinds of effects are allowed.
To my understanding, the rule against chorus, flanging, and the like is because those effects change the sound of the synth too much. The rule against pitching is because it changes the sound of the synth too much. We had a discussion a while back about an all-pass filter plugin which could turn a click into a frequency sweep that made a decent base for a kick drum, and as I recall people were generally agreed that it wasn't permitted because it changed the sound of the synth too much. So it seems to be at least a widely applicable principle behind the rules, if not a general one.
It's also something which is inherently subjective, so it's bound to be somewhat contentious when people inevitably come to disagree about what is "unrecognizable". Evidently we also have some disagreements about whether it's even a generally applicable principle.
And hey, if it's not meant to be one, that's okay. I happen to think it's a great unifying principle that puts the focus on the synth in a good way. But I don't think it's necessary.
With that, I'll let it go. I hope that makes clear where I'm coming from, whether you agree or not.
I'm bringing this over to the general thread so we don't pollute the ExtraBold thread further with this topic.Has anyone read the rules recently?
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"Any effect that transforms the sound to make them unrecognizable as being from the synth (Overdrive, heavy distortion, bit crushing, or related). Never go full 11 "
i dont understand how carving out the sound you want with eq / filtering can be considered related to Overdrive, heavy distortion or bit crushing.
Yes, I usually consult the rules when I talk about them. I've always taken "any effect" here to mean, you know, any effect, and the mention of overdrive and the like to be examples of effects that are easily abused in this way. Perhaps I'm misinterpreting the intent. If you think so, that's fine. But I read this as a statement of the guiding principle behind multiple rules about what kinds of effects are allowed.
To my understanding, the rule against chorus, flanging, and the like is because those effects change the sound of the synth too much. The rule against pitching is because it changes the sound of the synth too much. We had a discussion a while back about an all-pass filter plugin which could turn a click into a frequency sweep that made a decent base for a kick drum, and as I recall people were generally agreed that it wasn't permitted because it changed the sound of the synth too much. So it seems to be at least a widely applicable principle behind the rules, if not a general one.
It's also something which is inherently subjective, so it's bound to be somewhat contentious when people inevitably come to disagree about what is "unrecognizable". Evidently we also have some disagreements about whether it's even a generally applicable principle.
And hey, if it's not meant to be one, that's okay. I happen to think it's a great unifying principle that puts the focus on the synth in a good way. But I don't think it's necessary.
With that, I'll let it go. I hope that makes clear where I'm coming from, whether you agree or not.
Statistics: Posted by FrogsInPants — Mon Oct 07, 2024 11:57 pm